IGEL Weekly: IGEL Announces New App Software Developer Program and Toolkit

IGEL, provider of the secure endpoint OS for now and next, today from IGEL DISRUPT 24 announced that it has released a new program for IGEL app developers along with a software development toolkit (SDK) to empower the rapid delivery of new and proven solutions for IGEL customers and their supporting ecosystem. Resulting apps from developer program vendor members using the new SDK will be added to the growing IGEL App Portal which now features 50 validated apps for use in IGEL-powered environments, providing customers with fast and flexible updates and functionality.

Host: Andy Whiteside
Co-host: Chris Feeney

Transcript

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TELEPHONE_USER: Welcome to Episode 93 of Ijel weekly, and your host, Andy Weiss, that I've got Chris Speedy with me, Chris. I know it's been

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TELEPHONE_USER: I don't know what. 3, 4 weeks since I'll disrupt. I assume you're all recovered

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TELEPHONE_USER: back to normal. And, you know, dealing with hopefully good fallout from the events.

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Chris Feeney: Definitely. There was a heavy dose of of travel. I was thinking about this.

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Chris Feeney: for the last.

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Chris Feeney: you know. Further, for the first few months of the year. Lots of events. It's always trade show seasons kind of get get through in May. And so

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Chris Feeney: it's been a few weeks. Been off the road thankfully recuperating

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Chris Feeney: doing some family things with my daughter graduating college and kinda getting getting through that which was amazing.

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Chris Feeney: So but yeah, kind of summer is here just to have Memorial Day. So I'm excited about

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Chris Feeney: some a little bit of R and R mixed with work in play, perhaps. Over the next couple of months. Here.

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TELEPHONE_USER: It's

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TELEPHONE_USER: It's that time of year where you still gotta get work done. But you start thinking about how you're gonna enjoy the summer. Get through that. And

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TELEPHONE_USER: I've got a beach trip coming up this week. But I'm gonna be working and taking my kids to the beach.

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TELEPHONE_USER: to be interesting.

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Chris Feeney: I've adopted my teacher. So when she's off she gets 2 months. So I'm I'm I'm adopting, hey? Our kids are gone for the summer, so I can work from anywhere. Let's pick a spot and go.

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TELEPHONE_USER: Yeah, yeah.

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TELEPHONE_USER: That's a good idea. And it does work to a large degree these days, as you know, still create some challenge, especially when you have a wife. That's a teacher in my case, a retired school teacher. They

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TELEPHONE_USER: you know they they my. When the summers come, the teachers pretty much are off, and to some degree kinda expect those around them to kind of be off, too, which is one of the benefits of that career, no doubt.

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TELEPHONE_USER: Least that's how I see it.

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TELEPHONE_USER: So Chris, the the blog that we're reviewing today is something that happened at Disrupt, and I was very curious about it, and I'm glad you're talking about it. I'll I'll share my screen in a minute, but the title of it is. Igl announces new app software development program and toolkit. I'll read the first section here says, accelerating the development of apps for igl app portal

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TELEPHONE_USER: Aka ij Linux now, at 50 app strong, I, Joe, releases a new ijel ready developer program and SDK to optimize delivery of apps

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TELEPHONE_USER: for the igl ready ecosystem, and I'm gonna add the word operating system. Chris will have a bunch of questions. But why did you bring this blog forward today?

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Chris Feeney: Oh, I thought it was very interesting, because it's sort of you know, we we broke up disrupt into essentially 2

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Chris Feeney: focus days, right? The first was the now, and the second day was the next. And so this was announced on the second day, the next because it is something that is not yet out, but will be released very soon. And so in about a year or so after we officially and launched OS. 12. And of course, the app portal itself. And so it reminds me of sort of it. You know, I've talked about this before

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Chris Feeney: when the iphone was first announced. Right. It looked like a more of a an advanced I touch thing, or whatever it was, ipod or whatever. And then the apps began to show up, and usefulness and things like that. And so here we are. A year later, and we've definitely seen more and more applications begin to show up and so what became a reality was, you know, how do we make this

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Chris Feeney: much more scalable? And so began.

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Chris Feeney: We kind of had a program before with what we call our custom partitions. And so this is sort of

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Chris Feeney: I'll call it custom partitions version 2 or something, and I know that's that's probably not the right way to say it. But it's really taking that idea that these third party apps or stuff that wasn't already included. Now there's a toolkit

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Chris Feeney: to put it all together and and then do it in a secure manner, and each of the vendors can use this to begin building and deploying apps. And so and obviously kind of taking

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Chris Feeney: the, you know the operating system, and then layering in the more functional applications those native app experiences that people are beginning to look for.

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Chris Feeney: Hmm.

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TELEPHONE_USER: Yeah. So, Chris, that's what I found. Curious about this. Let me see if there's a way to kind of walk through the article and get this out of it. But

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TELEPHONE_USER: yes, not really segmented out. But that's that's okay. We'll just kind of talk through it a little bit. Does this mean that that I, Joe.

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TELEPHONE_USER: believes there's a spot in the end user compute world, or maybe bypassing end user computer world where we don't have to rely on delivery apps like

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TELEPHONE_USER: delivered with delivery protocols like Citrix and Vmware. I'll miss a Avd. Even Browser based applications where we can literally write native apps for Igl Linux and have that be the solution. Stack for the customer.

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Chris Feeney: Oh, potentially it it again. It it th. There's other types of things that I begin to see, so just functional things that

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Chris Feeney: you know, one that's about to come out, I believe here soon is just an auto discovery of like printers on the network right? Something that sounds.

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Chris Feeney: you know.

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Chris Feeney: you know, in today's world, you know, you just get a you bring your laptop home, whatever you put on your home network, and it figures out things, and so just making it simpler and easier. Little little utilities like that to certainly full on browsers or or things where you don't necessarily need a delivery mechanism. And so about to be released.

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Chris Feeney: In short order. We'll have the island browser going out to the public portal

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Chris Feeney: as well as the Microsoft edge browser

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Chris Feeney: and then we've got the Microsoft Intune client these are all things that were announced that disrupt. And so the these these, you know, functional applications that can provide some value. But but I think you're gonna see? Still a mixed

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Chris Feeney: scenario where some applications they just don't run natively on Linux, or there's other third party integrations and things that that would be required in order to have a really good user experience. But it might start off with, you know, some simple use cases.

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Chris Feeney: At first, and then advance from there.

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Chris Feeney: Yeah.

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TELEPHONE_USER: Okay. So the way you answered that was interesting, right? So it didn't talk about like I I kinda teed you up, and and you know you answered it probably really appropriate from an ijel perspective. I I teed you up for. Let's just you know, bypass all of this stuff and take over the space, which obviously is not the case. You're not gonna do that but you are enabling, you know, if there was a specific application to be able to install locally, and if that was the used case, but

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TELEPHONE_USER: think from you know your perspective, my perspective. I assume I just perspective. You can clarify that one. We know. This end user compute thing is

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TELEPHONE_USER: you know, very broad. And it's gonna take a entire ecosystem of applications, which is what you guys are doing to enable it make it more easily attainable.

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TELEPHONE_USER: To know in order to address the overall needs of most clients. Maybe there's a one off use case where a single application like a I don't know. Es 400 client is all you need, because it's, you know, 1992 again. But is that? Is that a fair way to say it? Like what you? I just basically translated what you said. There's still this need for all these development around in user community related apps. And oh, by the way, if you had just one application or a handful of applications needed to.

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TELEPHONE_USER: you know, make ready for Linux, which might already have a Linux client, and you wanted to make sure it was Ige already. You could do that, too.

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Chris Feeney: And I think, it. It's it's a combination of that. I I think. There will be, you know, like today, for example, we've got the team's progressive web app.

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Chris Feeney: which you can install as a separate app.

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Chris Feeney: some other. You know, we got the Zoom client. You know, we're using Zoom to record this today like, that's a a natively running Linux thing. And and sometimes it's, you know, I don't necessarily need to access, you know, and run a zoom call from my virtual desktop. I can just run it locally

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Chris Feeney: with the browser log in and and just work out of the browser all day long, and and be completely functional, you know, and and and also you know, part of what you see, here is, what was also announced, I think, in conjunction with this is that

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Chris Feeney: I think, as we begin to see, some of these newer hardware devices begin to emerge. Like, last week, you know all. If you were paying attention, you you heard nothing but aipcs coming right. And you know, with our hardware partners. HP. Lenovo, and lg, you know I'm I'm I know Lenovo is on top of that, and so I'm very curious to see what sort of emerges from that where you have maybe an AI capable app that can do some sort of functionality running locally on Igl

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Chris Feeney: but it's gonna be an interesting I would say, next 4 years is is been seeing some predictions about

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Chris Feeney: the types of devices that are gonna come. And then, obviously what capabilities, you know. But all in all, I think I was thinking about this this morning.

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Chris Feeney: I have a variety of laptops. We talked about this one of which has windows on it. And it went through a firmware update or a bios update. And then when it came back up, I noticed some applications were in the startup that I just don't need. And there's other things. And so you have this scenario where

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Chris Feeney: we've been used to these apps that are bloated for these OS is that that have things that we just don't need. I don't need the Xbox app, as far as I can tell on my work. PC. Why is it included? Sorry, Microsoft and I. I'm not an Xbox gamer guy some people are. But you know. Why would I be using that? It's not my job. I don't need to have that or some other things. And so with I do you get what you need, and then you layer in the pieces that you you only need.

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Chris Feeney: and

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TELEPHONE_USER: Right.

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Chris Feeney: And and then, of course, if I don't need.

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TELEPHONE_USER: If it's okay to get what you need might be that one application that does have a Linux a Linux offering that you could take it, make it already, or tweak it, make it ige already, and next thing you know you, you were able to accomplish the get windows off the endpoint, even though it's still in the data center. It's still, you know, very secure, very applicable for lots of use cases. But in some use cases it it just won't make sense to have it on the endpoint.

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Chris Feeney: Oh, what's really cool is just last week we did a webinar with the first vendor that actually created an app for the port of liquid ware, and I know you guys have worked with them before on some integration. I believe it was with service. Now, if I'm not mistaken. And we actually brought that used case up where

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Chris Feeney: have some intelligence on the endpoint where it can integrate and automatically maybe open up a ticket proactively, because it recognizes, or at least put some alert

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Chris Feeney: that to the user that hey? Your Wi-fi is kind of spotty, or whatever might be

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Chris Feeney: so applications like that will that will overall help with both the administrator side

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Chris Feeney: and also the user experience side. And so it might be a specific thing, or it might be, you know, something that can plug into the larger ecosystem.

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Chris Feeney: What we also announced is some of these vendors that we've previously not really done a lot with. But you've got Z Scalar working on an app right now.

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Chris Feeney: And we hope. And if I said that accidentally

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Chris Feeney: bags out right. We've got vendors like this where they have some really amazing networking, you know, sas, you know, secure service edge type things. And so

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Chris Feeney: and into. Not put in there right this conditional access right where now we've got some intelligence on the endpoint saying that you know. Hey, this device is igl, and it's for my company. And therefore I'm gonna allow it to be able to access these resources to do their job.

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Chris Feeney: And so, you know, even Citrix right, they announced their enterprise browser, you know capability. And we've got a sneak preview of that right now where you can put a shortcut on the desktop to launch the Enterprise browser, and then access your applications from there. So.

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TELEPHONE_USER: Yeah, Chris, these are all interesting things for me, cause these are all you know. These are all things that I've been talking about with these vendors for a while. Now, you know, asking them, you know, what are you gonna do to develop your platform on Linux? In this case? I, Joe. And they're they're stepping up. And and what really resonates with me in this conversation is these vendors that see a future where enterprise customers, or even, you know, mid market and and commercial, and maybe even Smb customers, they can get away from having windows on the endpoint.

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TELEPHONE_USER: which goes a massive way. I was having a conversation with my marketing team this morning around our our security practice. And I realized I gotta start calling it modern security practice. Because we? We look at it more of a holistic approach, not just building moats around our important assets. And this is part of that story.

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TELEPHONE_USER: Are.

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Chris Feeney: Well, certainly, like, I said. I'm I'm excited, cause you know the way it was. It was demoed our our our CTO over Tsas talked about the idea that you know he likes to cook, and he's found that, you know

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Chris Feeney: he might be able to go. And and there's a websites that have, you know everything you need to, you know, cook an amazing recipe. And here's the ingredients you need, and

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Chris Feeney: you know, fancy, or whatever you can, you know. Add as many of these ingredients, or you could simplify the recipe whatever. And so what we've tried to do is simplify the recipe for

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Chris Feeney: creating these apps. And with the tool where you can just literally plug these pieces together and then run this tool, and it builds essentially the app. And why is that important? Because I jelled as an operating system, being read, only you cannot go and just download stuff from any kind of Linux app portal that might exist today from a boon to or whatever. And there's plenty of them out there

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Chris Feeney: it just doesn't exist. We've completely removed that capability. And that's always been the case.

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Chris Feeney: And so from a security perspective, it's that, you know, just like, if I'm gonna build an app for the apple store, you know. I have to go through a vetting process, and then

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Chris Feeney: that app gets vetted before it gets, you know, available. And so we've got a similar thing here where.

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Chris Feeney: these independent software vendors, or even partners, for example, if they want to, or even customers can can ultimately

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Chris Feeney: say, I've got a custom app that I want to use and create so it can run correctly on on Igl. And that's what this tool is going to be about.

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TELEPHONE_USER: So, Chris, I, this this makes me reflect. Back on the day when I learned the difference between why Microsoft beat Novell and I walked into a data center with a guy, and he said, Well, we you know, you look in the aisles. Okay, Microsoft, on this side. Microsoft on that side used to be Novell on the right side, Microsoft on the left side, and he asked me, you know what happened, and I was like

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TELEPHONE_USER: I don't know I mean Microsoft is Microsoft is all I've known. I mean, I knew Novell for a couple of years in my career in the very beginning. But and he made a really really logical point when you walked in with a CIO

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TELEPHONE_USER: 20 plus maybe 30 years ago. Now, he said, okay, I got Novell servers over here. I got Microsoft servers over there. Why do I have to have both and said, Well, the Microsoft servers, Microsoft is makes it very easy to develop and run applications on well, don't they do the same thing? Well, no, the novell ones we use for the infrastructure. Microsoft does infrastructure and applications.

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TELEPHONE_USER: Okay, well, if this one does infrastructure and applications, and they make it easy to develop applications on, why don't we? Why do we have both like, Well, I guess we don't really need both, do we? And Boom, next thing you know, here comes Microsoft, and there goes Novell that was like A. A you know landmark moment for me because I realized at that point, Microsoft, if you go back and read, you know Bill Gates and some of the leadership there and where they, you know, come from. They their application developers at heart. Anyway, they understood applications, you know, kind of rule. The space.

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Chris Feeney: Well, yeah, I mean, I remember when I came to Raleigh moved down here and got into my first it job essentially.

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Chris Feeney: Even a little bit before that. I I remember experiencing a lot of customers that were running novelle

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Chris Feeney: and trying to migrate them.

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Chris Feeney: Over to Microsoft.

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Chris Feeney: That was a large project. And and then, thankfully, there were some tools that kind of help with the automation of some of that. But.

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Chris Feeney: there was some technical things that could be done. But I remember Microsoft just sort of integrating everything from the operating system to the back end server and the networking tools and obviously pulling in their

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Chris Feeney: exchange and and email system and just making it seamless.

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Chris Feeney: But we also saw the rise of

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Chris Feeney: some, our first viruses that began to get rampant, taking advantage of some of those security holes.

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Chris Feeney: I'll never forget the day. I love you, virus kinda hit and took our email system down

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Chris Feeney: and so

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Chris Feeney: things like that began to emerge where you had the need for those antivirus and other things, those security tools, because it wasn't really.

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Chris Feeney: you know, on the forefront. Whereas

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Chris Feeney: I just kind of had that approach right built from the ground up from our founding to be run in a untrusted environment.

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Chris Feeney: So now, layer in an application process where you, when you pull in the apps that you absolutely need.

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Chris Feeney: and then you keep the ones

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Chris Feeney: off that you don't. But I think what we're gonna see is, as I've already seen, because I have access to see kind of what's waiting in the wings. And there's some pretty cool stuff out there

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Chris Feeney: that's going through different release candidates, and then eventually it'll make its way to the public portal. So I'm excited to see sort of the

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Chris Feeney: the newer vendors out there in the ecosystem, as well as some other stuff that maybe little utilities, or whatever that people can use. And

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Chris Feeney: and that begins solving problems. For in a Linux world.

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TELEPHONE_USER: And it's and it's needed. It's gonna make a massive difference on the the security. It already is right for customers who are adopting this, and we've got several that have had, you know, ransomware attacks on the Microsoft endpoint side, and you know the Igl literally Igl Linux Citrix vmware. You name it side. It's completely over there, just humming along. No problem

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TELEPHONE_USER: even though the rest of the environments just gotten devastated. It, it really it really is, gonna change the game for people that adopted and that it goes back to that modern security conversation you just you just can't

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TELEPHONE_USER: keep looking at this through the same old way, and it's clearly clearly amazing and powerful.

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TELEPHONE_USER: broken all at the same time.

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Chris Feeney: I think the one thing that kind of, especially for partners like you is is having that app that gives you intelligence on the endpoint. And what's going on there as well as visibility into the the everything in between.

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Chris Feeney: To help, you understand, you know, from an end. User perspective.

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Chris Feeney: Is there something going on, users experiencing something on the endpoint? Is it actually on the endpoint, or something else, you know? And so an app obviously like liquid where there's others out there to control up and and eg. Innovations and and lakeside, you know. But that type of intelligence will just make, you know, cios partners, everybody a little bit smarter and hopefully more proactive

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Chris Feeney: as they see things emerging in the environment.

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Chris Feeney: They can anticipate that and respond so.

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Chris Feeney: Yes.

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TELEPHONE_USER: Well, Chris, I appreciate you jumping on that. That helped me a ton, to be honest with you, 'cause I

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TELEPHONE_USER: I saw the announcement, and I kinda just kinda let it be. I didn't really. Wanna you know, talk to people a whole lot about that do to do with clients. And and, you know, having fun at the event. But I was curious what the direction is. It'll it'll be interesting to watch this one unfold

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TELEPHONE_USER: and see if, like one

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TELEPHONE_USER: app beyond. You know the beyond the Citrixes and Vmware and Avds of the world and the island browsers and the the Microsoft browsers. If anybody outside of that world in the, you know, the monitoring solutions like we talked about here would look where, if anybody you know steps up and takes out a little bit next level. I mean, imagine if if epic hyperspace, which is kind of browser, based a little bit, you tell me. Imagine if.

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Chris Feeney: Right.

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TELEPHONE_USER: Native on

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TELEPHONE_USER: work drive. Sorry work drive. What if that became native on? I jail the number of use cases that could possibly pop up and help here.

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Chris Feeney: It's funny you say that cause there have been a lot of conversations. For you know, since we're on this topic, you know. Epic.

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Chris Feeney: obviously one of the largest health comp health care companies in the world.

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Chris Feeney: you know. I think

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Chris Feeney: I know I've got at least 3 epic my charts because I have gone to wake Med. Unc. And Duke

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Chris Feeney: but they're all seamless, and I can integrate all the charts together. But

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Chris Feeney: they launched a a new version of their product called hyperdrive a couple of years ago, and and most customers should already be deployed. But it was a chromium based built app

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Chris Feeney: because a lot of the integrations with those third party vendors, those devices software integrations. Unfortunately, it's it's a that long tail of windows we've talked about before. Just it's all windows based. But I think,

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Chris Feeney: we've been exploring, maybe some new scenarios. I mentioned it before.

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Chris Feeney: maybe it's starting with a small set of used cases where I can just use a browser to access some information and then over time, seeing more functionality get developed. I mean, it would be it would be kinda cool to see a that type of app running locally on on Igl

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Chris Feeney: I think we're a ways away from that, mainly because.

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Chris Feeney: mainly because of all the third party integrations in a healthcare setting. And I imagine it might exist in a if it's a financial setting with with the main app. And then these integrations from partners and stuff like that. So it just takes time. But

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Chris Feeney: but I think hopefully, this SDK toolkit will kind of accelerate the ability to to make something like that happen. So we'll

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Chris Feeney: we'll see. We we having those conversations. Customers are certainly driving a lot of that. Because they. They don't want to be vulnerable on the endpoint, but they also need to be able to be productive and taking care of patients and stuff. So

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Chris Feeney: Emma.

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TELEPHONE_USER: Awesome. Well, Chris, I appreciate the time, you know. Welcome to summer. I think it's officially here, I guess Memorial Day actually makes it official

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TELEPHONE_USER: and of course we need to, you know, reflect on the the reason for the holiday. I I probably should have done that earlier, and really

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TELEPHONE_USER: a lot of value in us based on what's happened before others went before us. And I just Wanna, say, thank you to the folks who have served, and specifically those who, you know, lost their lives for the our country.

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TELEPHONE_USER: Chris, I appreciate the time today and look forward to talking to you talking to you again in 2 weeks.

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Chris Feeney: Okay, thanks, Andy. Always a pleasure.